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PostSubject: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:58 am

This video covers the Elder Scrolls from 1994 to 2011/ Just a little reminiscence.

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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:45 pm

Yeah its interesting to look back on these. Arena is kind of forgettable but Daggerfall was great in its day. I think it was the first one that gave you first person view on horses. When Morrowind came out and the lore stated that Dunmer don't use horses I missed that aspect. Of course the game is still great even to this day.
Someone actually did a great first person horse mod for Skyrim unfortunately the latest patches have busted it. Damn shamn.
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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:32 pm

Busted mods is the story of Skyrim official patches. Which is why I haven't installed some of the mods. Now maybe Beth will move on to something else and the modders can start fixing their mods and the game. Who knows it might actually become fun to play again. I love the music and the landscape.

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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:51 pm

They already have moved on, Toddler Howard and Co are busy butchering Fallout 4. Its the beta team that do all the Skyrim patching and DLC which is why the effort is always so half-arsed. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:01 pm

Yeah, I was not happy to hear they were doing Fallout 4. Is there any hope that they may listen to the PC fans and come up with something tolerable? That doesn't need eight or more patches to semi-fix.

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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:08 pm

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Yeah, I was not happy to hear they were doing Fallout 4. Is there any hope that they may listen to the PC fans and come up with something tolerable? That doesn't need eight or more patches to semi-fix.

Are you kidding we're talking about Bethesda. They create an innovative game like Morrowind and over the years have done a progressive streamlining (call it dumbing down if you like) of their games. With Todd Howard at the helm its gone from bad to worse. The best versions of Fallout are 1 and 2 done by Black Isle because they're dark, adult, violent and allow choices. When Beth got its hands on the franchise it went some place else namely railroading quests and exploding body parts.

I mean even though I've now modded Skyrim into some semblance of enjoyment take the most stupid quest ever. Go to Falkreath a guy asks you to take the ashes of his relation to the priest. Usually the Priest is sat next to him in the inn or outside. Come back to quest giver and receive 250 gold. I guess Mr Howard assumes all players are brain dead morons.

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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:24 pm

I hate to say this but Mr. T. Howard and Bethesda are from the USA. Many USA game players are brain dead morons. If it isn't fast and flashy it isn't worth playing. Someone on the Obsidian Project Eternity forum did a pole of where the backers were from. It was a bit of a questionable poll because it included Antarctica and 13 people last time I counted said they were from there. However about 2/3 rds or more of the backers who answered the poll were from Europe. That does indicate something.

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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:33 pm

Your logic isn't sound I'm afraid because Black Isle Studios were based in California.

A lot of games are American and I don't think its accurate to say they're all dumbed down rubbish. I don't happen to like the practice but in fairness its purely the financial considerations of any big business. In this day and age a game has to be commercially viable and target as many people as possible.

Thats why Skyrim was streamlined. In some ways its a good thing because it gets more people into RPG games but at the same time it annoys all the old hands who see it as limiting roleplaying and gameplay.

To be honest I've bought far better Indie games than AAA titles this year. Being an Indie developer allows you to make what you want and you don't have to pander to an over zealous publisher.

I guess thats why Kickstarter is a good thing. Looking forward to David Braben's new Elite game if it gets done. I won't rush out and sign up for a lot of these kickstarter projects because part of me doubts that some will ever get finished. I guess I'm just cynical.
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PostSubject: Re: The Elder Scrolls - A look back   Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:49 pm

Actually my logic is based on what happened with a German game series that I loved. Because the first game took a lot of micro-management the reviewers panned it and it did not go over well in the USA. I bought the series from either a Canadian supplier or from a UK one. The game just didn't move fast enough for the USA people. I actually had some minor arguments with a couple of reviewers.

The gaming community is getting older but it is true that publishers are in it only to make money so they do target as many people as possible. Some of the Black Isle people I believe are part of the current Obsidian so hope reigns there.

Bethesda and Bioware are names only now. I just hope Obsidian can pull this one off.

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PostSubject: Curious   Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:04 am

Nakia the Rogue wrote:
Actually my logic is based on what happened with a German game series that I loved. Because the first game took a lot of micro-management the reviewers panned it and it did not go over well in the USA. I bought the series from either a Canadian supplier or from a UK one. The game just didn't move fast enough for the USA people. I actually had some minor arguments with a couple of reviewers.

The gaming community is getting older but it is true that publishers are in it only to make money so they do target as many people as possible. Some of the Black Isle people I believe are part of the current Obsidian so hope reigns there.

Bethesda and Bioware are names only now. I just hope Obsidian can pull this one off.

What game series? I'm nosy AR
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