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PostSubject: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:44 am

Don't know if you are interested in this but there are some goodies that can be obtained if you sign up for the Andromeda Initiative and watch some videos about the game with your Origin Account:

https://www.masseffect.com/en-gb/andromeda-initiative

I don't know if there is a deadline for this (the game is supposed to be released in a few weeks).

The freebies are a special helmet and a skin for the land vehicle (apparently you only have to sign up for the newsletter to unlock the skin, the videos are for the helmet).

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:40 am

Played two hours last night and I don't get what the fuss is about. The internet is going full retard on the animations in this game when they are serviceable and frankly not worse than any game made by Bethesda (and much less buggy than Assassin's Creed Unity on release).

What really pisses me off about all the Mass Effect Andromeda bashing on the internet is all the people who are raving about the Witcher 3 and how superior it is when in fact it had many glitches that took more than a year to be ironed out (Geralt's horse losing its tail is just an embarrassing example that comes to mind).

Besides having played the previous Mass Effect not too long ago (I've finished Mass Effect 3 with the modded ending the other day) all I can say is that it looks a lot better than the previous games (1 has aged a lot, 2 has some serious lighting issues and 3 has some very wonky animations especially if you played Femshep).

Sure, I wish they had made some better looking hair but I'm not forgetting that Mass Effect 3 was a serious step back after Mass Effect 2 (especially when it came to hair) and Andromeda is probably not worse than Dragon Age Inquisition in that respect (unfortunately it's not better).

Bottom line it looks and feels like Dragon Age Inquisition in the Mass Effect universe which is exactly what I was expecting.

Combat is fun though and that's something I've never been able to say about Inquisition.

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:37 am

Skyrim, also, had and still has more than its fair share of weird animation glitches.


I think there is just a sizable group of histrionic pinheads on the internet who have it in for Bioware for political reasons. Bioware is an SJW company, I'm told. They have brown people and girls with short hair in their games, which is evidently part of some conspiracy to emasculate white men. At least, that's the gist I got from Reddit. The stiff facial animations are just an excuse to attack the company by way of attacking the game, I think.

I have Andromeda and have played some, too. The combat is quite fun, with the addition of the jump jet and the removal of sticky cover. In that regard, it's a clear improvement over the previous games. Like you said, it is basically Dragon Age: Inquisition with enjoyable combat. The similarities in terms of structure are undeniable.

It's not going to be remembered as a classic, I'm sure, but it also not the calamity some on the net would make it out to be.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:05 pm

Too early for me to tell if it will go down as a classic but truth is it's a fun game that ticks all the right boxes as far as I'm concerned. I'm not expecting it to be mind shatteringly innovative or anything (I leave that to indie games) so I'm not disappointed.

That nonsense on Reddit is shameful and shameless. Insecure dicks (both literally and metaphorically) who can't accept that some people may enjoy characters who aren't pasty white or of a different gender or sexual orientation.

The world is a big place and if anything Mass Effect doesn't come near representing all the different ethnic groups that make up humankind (not sure it's their sole objective though).

In any case my first impressions are definitely positive and I have a much better time coming to terms with a big third person shooter with jetpacks (these are fun indeed) than with Inquisition and its boring combat.

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:20 am

The more I play the more I'm enjoying the game and the more it keeps opening up. Sure I wish that some animations and hairstyles would look better (same with Skyrim and F4) but I'm still having much more fun with this than with DAI or the Witcher 3.

Say Kana what does your Pathfinder look like?

Here is my guy, Red Ryder:

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I wish I had taken a shot of his dad because I swear he looked a lot like a younger dark haired Kirk Douglas! Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:20 pm

Cool character. Here is mine. She's basically just the first preset after the default with different hair. I actually created her in the time-limited trial before release, so I didn't want to spend a lot of time on character creation.

https://goo.gl/photos/8ro58CozGCVHjeFX7

I'm enjoying it a lot, too. I'm playing primarily as a vanguard, which was my favorite class in the previous games. It really benefits from the increased mobility of the combat in this game. You can pull of some pretty impressive combos, throwing, charging and punching enemies all over the battlefield. I also have a sentinel profile I fall back on for when charging in like an idiot is a bad idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:46 am

She's lovely! There may not be too many options (at least currently) but you've managed to make the most of it.

I enjoyed the engineer class the most with my female Shepard so it was a simple choice really. I do focus on the Infiltrator profile with a sniper rifle, a shotgun for close quarters and a handgun as a backup. The turret and overload work wonders but I still have to pick a third ability.

Some things about this game remind me of Kingdoms of Amalur (like the profiles). I'm having a blast! Smile

I've played two loyalty missions so far and they've been awesome. I really like the NPCs in this game.

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:43 am

Ian Frazier was the lead designer on both Andromeda and Kingdoms of Amalur, so it's not surprising to see him carry over some of his ideas. The man definitely know how to make enjoyable combat.

Yes, the NPCs are a lot of fun. I like that the game doesn't take itself too seriously. There have been some real laugh-out-loud moments from the squad. I especially like Drack.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:06 am

He is great! I'm really fond of the old Krogan. Smile

I've enjoyed his loyalty mission quite a bit.

Frankly I was worried because they kept bringing up the Witcher 3 and that game is not near as perfect as everyone says (I could go on and on but let's just say that combat is not a highlight which is slightly ironic considering and even worse everything is level gated which completely defeats the idea of a huge open world game).

But so far I'm relieved because the one thing that they may have emphasized in relation to the Witcher 3 is how to make the player feel that side quests actually matter by fleshing them out a bit.

I guess a little backstory goes a long way in making a simple fetch and carry quest feel less trite. Smile

By the way how is the voice acting for female Ryder?

I'm conflicted when it comes to male Ryder voice as I feel he sounds a bit too laid back and "American" for my liking (had the same problem with Geralt in the Witcher and it took me several games to get over it).

I'll probably end up replaying Andromeda with a female biotic after I'm done (looks like it will be a long time from now).

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:31 am

I've never been able to get into the Witcher series. It took me three attempts to get through the first one, and I've started both 2 and 3 multiple times but never made it more than a few hours in. Something about the series just doesn't resonate with me. Of course, criticizing Witcher 3 in some parts of the internet is like speaking blasphemy, and it is so often portrayed as the singular example to which all other games should aspire.

Ryder's voice actress seems to have done a decent job. I mean, it hasn't called attention to itself the way bad voice acting does. I'm mostly choosing the professional/logical dialogue choices, so she doesn't seem too laid back. Some lines strike an emotion tone that I wasn't necessarily expecting, but that's more a script problem than an acting one (and a result of the old Bioware dialogue wheel bait-and-switch that they have done in all their recent games).
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:48 am

I get what you're saying. The one thing I miss from DAI is the possibility of choosing between different voice actors.

Don't get me wrong for all its flaws I like the Witcher 3 but I can see that it's pretty much Assassin's Creed meets Batman with crappy parkour and mediocre controls.

The highlight is the focus on stories BUT the only reason it is working is because it is NOT a (real) CRPG. The dialogues are tailored for Geralt and they wouldn't work for another character which means that the game is a lot more like an adventure game.

I've said it before but I'll say it again, if the Witcher 3 is an RPG then the new Lara Croft games are RPGs too. What choices the Witcher 3 offer don't make up for the fact that you can't really stray off the path (ironically) and being forced to play Geralt only makes that worse.

I may not be 100% sold on the dialogue wheel in Andromeda but at least there are some options to pick different answers and convey different emotional responses.

I'm just glad they got rid of the Paragon/Renegade system. That stuff belonged with KotoR and never made much sense in ME.

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:09 pm

I've just finished Andromeda. Apart from the idiot or buggy quests. I've recorded around 120 hours on it. In a nutshell : Mass Effect Andromeda has nice moments, you have fun playing it (I wouldn't have clocked 120 hours if it was a boring game), but while it's not a bad game, it certainly not a good game. At the end of the day, I think it's the "6/10 triple A game" we often see : a bland story played out by bland characters with bland dialogue recorded with bland voice actors, but with a few redeemable qualities. One of which is the Mass Effect universe (its always fun to go revisit all those races we grew to love, like the asaris, salarians, turians, even krogans!). I'm not certain I would have played 120 hours of it if it was a new game set in a new universe.

Here's a few random thoughts :

- Cooooombaaaaaaat. Honestly, that's the BIGGEST quality of this game. The combat flows well and is stressful and envigorating at the same time. They really nailed the freedom of movement and use of cover (jetpack included) that makes a fight a thrill to play.

- The game is "gamey" as HELLLL. "Ryder, your father has blocked some of his memories for no reason. You need to collect 3 shimmering balls of energy to unlock a memory". Really, Bioware? REALLY? Not only is does it not make sense he blocks his memories, but he "ties them to your progress". So, we get to a new galaxy, everything is to shit, nothing is as it was supposed to be, and yet the memory are tied to some sort of arbitrary progress that father Ryder had no idea would be accomplished? And they made the memory triggers balls of energy you have to find and activate? Who the hell approved of such a moronic system? This jolts me out of immersion.

And talking about gamey, when you have a huge area to visit, DON'T PUT IMAGINARY BARRIERS OF ENERGY TO PREVENT YOU FROM WANDERING TOO FAR. Just put natural barriers, like oceans, very dense jungle, I don't know. But magically appearing energy barrier screams of laziness writing. They had that in the movie Cabin in the woods, but in that case, it was a sarcastic feature. Here, they're serious. Again, this jolts me out of immersion.

Alien sudoku.... facepalm...

- I thought it was a really clever setting for the story. They sideswiped the pitfalls of the open ended story of the original ME trilogy (
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). They used a problematic starting point and transformed it into a strong one. Which brings me to :

- If only they had followed through with the promise of the story. It was supposed to be an exploration story in a new galaxy (like Star Trek : to explore strange new worlds and discover new civilizations). Yet, you met TWO new species, one friendly and one not. And they're rather bland looking at that. I honestly thought the Kett were Protheans when we first see them (haven't played ME 1, 2 or 3 in ages, but still). Nothing looks or feels truly alien. It's like living in the US and visiting Canada. It's not like you're going to disoriented. Even the Remnant stuff looks like Prothean artifacts. And "exploring". I mean, everywhere you go, people have already explored or tried to settle (you needed a vault to get a starchart with new systems to explore, and when you get there "oh, this planet has already been named by passing outlaws".... okay... I was expecting a change of pace from Shepard's "general in a war" role, expecting to discover new life forms and generally be a terraformer and diplomat. Instead, you have Ryder, a "general in a war"....

- Cara, I know you disliked the Paragon/Renegade system in ME, but at least it was something. You had two extremes to go to in a dialogue. In Andromeda, waaaaaaaay too often, you choose between two dialogue variants (example : a funny "yes" or a "serious" yes. BUT IT STILL IS YES. Having multiple dialogue options is completely wasted if they all amount to the same thing). I thought true role playing was missing, as the character is not tailored to you, rather you must tailor to the character.

- The colonies (or races) are doomed for failure, just saying. Technically, I think the established minimal population as a starting point for a race is 48 000. Below that, the genetic baggage is too small to be sustainable as it will eventually collapse due to inbreeding as there isn't enough genetic diversity. In Andromeda, each race starts out with 20 000 individuals, and that's not counting family members among that number. Too small population to be viable (seriously, with each outlaw I killed, I was like "there goes a unique genetic baggage").

- Why the fuck do major studios have such a hard on for daddy issues stories? Like seriously? I was like "AGAIN?". And it makes 0 sense that Ryder son/daughter inherits the title. They have 0 training and 0 skills. Worst. Decision. Ever. Cora is a much better choice, hence WHY SHE WAS NEXT IN LINE! "Aww, I always thought my daddy hated me, but he proved he loved me in the end by putting the weight of a galaxy on my underqualified shoulders".
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- Bugs. I agree with you guys that the bug problem was overblown by the gaming community and that other games are just as buggy. But there are still many many bugs in the game. I don't remember encountering so many bugs in a game (quest markers not updating, graphic bugs, characters not appearing in cutscenes, etc). A triple game should never go to market with so many bugs. But then again, this is EA/Bioware's MO : rushing a game to market when it's not completed or quality assurance isn't done. I still think EA/Bioware killed KOTOR 2 by releasing it early while the game wasn't finished.

- I don't agree with you guys that the NPCs are fun. They could have been. The only NPCs I really connected to were PeeBee and Jaal. Maybe Drack. But the rest... man, what a cast of forgettable characters. In the codex, it said me and Gil were best friends. That's news to me, I only talked to him like four times. They should have invested in WAY more cutscenes with the NPCs. I thought all the relationships were artificial (except for PeeBee and Jaal). I romanced Cora. Man. That romance had like four cutscenes. Nothing like Ashley from ME1. And almost no references to the romance in following dialogue. It's like it never happened.

- I won't even get into the "white savior complex" of the story.

So yeah. While I had fun playing the game, it was a disappointing entry. It had lots of potential, story wise, to be a really good game. But then again, Bioware had pretty much stacked the odds against it by pulling their ace employees from the franchise so they could focus on Bioware's new supposed flagship MMO, Anthem. Andromeda could have reignited the ME franchise, but it was a half hearted attempt. Like I said, that was a 6/10 game to me. (I judged it more severely as it's a fourth entry. Along with all the dragon age game, which are basically the same save for the setting, they should have been able to pull of a better effort. And as a self-confessed story enthusiast, I judged it more severely as the story is the most important element of a game, IMO).

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda   Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:36 pm

It's a mixed bag, that's for sure but some of the good outweigh the bad. Still, I haven't finished it yet. I simply can't find the time or the energy to get back into it when all I want is to play another character. Razz

Andromeda and Inquisition have too much in common and the worst thing is that you need to get into them fulltime to get anywhere and that's just not the way I roll these days (unfortunately).

I have a complicated love/hate relationship with the Mass Effect franchise. It took me quite some time to really get into it and the one thing that really helped was the mods for ME 1 & 2 (especially the one to introduce controller support for the PC).

I still think the ending of ME 3 is the worst thing they could have done with the series (and I did fork the money to get all the DLCs for that game and some of the best moments in the whole series happen in the DLC).

The worst thing is that although I enjoy the combat I find myself thinking about reinstalling the ME Trilogy (with a modded ending) just because I enjoy the setting and characters a lot more (except Javik who I never liked).

Bottom line I wouldn't get excited about the new franchise that EA and Bioware are pulling out of their asses. They clearly no longer care about single player games and they never gave Andromeda a chance to redeem itself when they decided to drop all the support for the game.

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