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PostSubject: Re: Pillars of Eternity   Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:51 pm

It seems you didn't include the quote.

I'm cleaned out after the summer sales so I hope they won't charge too much for it. Laughing

That and I've been meaning to purchase Shadowrun Hong kong so I'll have to choose one or the other. Considering that I won't have time to play both (not to mention the games I've bought during the sales) I guess I'll have to wait a little. Wink

Still it seems that the patch will include some interesting features, is that correct?

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PostSubject: Re: Pillars of Eternity   Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:11 pm

Oooh! What did you buy in the sales?????

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PostSubject: Re: Pillars of Eternity   Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:11 am

These days my Steam library features more than 800 games so I should really put a stop to my spending spree. Embarassed

Lately I've picked X-Rebirth, Ancient Space (from a bundle) and Mount & Blade Warband Viking Conquest Reforged but I've been busy playing Risen 3 (I really love this game).

I've been meaning to play Legends of Eisenwald since it's been out of Early Access. Too many games too little time. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Pillars of Eternity   Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:16 am

The beta Patch 2.0 is up on Steam now. My guess is it will go live shortly before the Expansion is released. Then the Expansion will have to be patched. So PoE may be replayable early in September.

This is a good year for gaming. Enjoy it.

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PostSubject: Re: Pillars of Eternity   Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:30 am

I think I'll wait. The list of additions is pretty long and I was contemplating restarting so I may as well give it another go with the expansion.

The problem is that these days either we play an unfinished game or we wait for years and play games that have been superseded by a sequel. There is no middle ground.

I'm not singling out Obsidian by the way, this is a general state of affairs. Expansions get released and the whole cycle of patching starts again.

Take Crusader Kings 2 for instance (published and developed by Paradox), I love this game but they keep churning out expansions and DLC that break savegame compatibility and introduce a boatload of bugs which means that we have to wait for the devs to fix them. Things are made worse by Steam because Steam doesn't let you choose whether you want to patch your game or not. Reverting to an older patch is possible but frankly we shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to be able to finish a playthrough.

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PostSubject: Re: Pillars of Eternity   Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:51 am

I agree games are being released unfinished and then the players become unpaid beta testers. I also think OE is trying to make too many people happy and will end up making no one happy. Fixing bugs is one thing but constant rebalancing means if you start a game half way through it may change unless you opt out of all patches. It is a no win situation for the player in my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: Pillars of Eternity   Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:49 am

Exactly! You've hit the nail on the head.

I'm fed up with games that can't be played indefinitely like that because whatever you do you end up losing.

If you play a game right away it's more expensive and you run the risk of dealing with annoying bugs. You won't be able to enjoy all the content (expansions, DLC) and as a result you won't enjoy the full experience.

If you wait then it means that you end up having a very long wait ahead of you. For what? The game may never live up to expectations and by the time you get to play it it's likely a sequel supposed to fix everything that was lacking with the original game will be coming out.

At least patience can save some money so that's a valid point.

In the meantime it's annoying to see how meddling fans are trying to take over forums to push their agendas. Devs would be crazy to listen to them.

In any case when it comes to Pillars of Eternity I may love the game but we're not in 1998-2000 anymore. What I mean by that is that there are alternatives for a CRPG player. I'm still running Baldur's Gate from time to time just to unwind but with the recent isometric revival it's unlikely that I'll put as much time in any of these modern games (and that includes Pillars of Eternity) for the very simple reason that time has become a more valuable commodity (and I can only foresee this getting worse as time goes by).

Besides I really feel the first playthrough that you complete should be special. I don't want to mess things up because I have to patch a game.

I'm starting to think that playing on GOG is the better option. Sure, it takes longer to get patches (and that's a pain) but nobody will ever force you to update your game if you don't feel like it or don't want to be forced to start over.

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